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      <![CDATA[The business landscape is becoming more confusing and cluttered every day. Standing apart from competitors is more important than ever.

Included are short segments designed to help find your real value in the marketplace. By truly differentiating your company's product and service offerings, you are able to gain more prospects, convert more prospects to customers, sell more services to those customers, and sell them for more money.

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    <copyright>Copyright 2025 Ed King and Steven Winokur </copyright>
    <itunes:subtitle>Business and marketing strategy tips to help you build clear, compelling, sustainable and differentiated messages that resonate with customers, prospects and employees.</itunes:subtitle>
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Included are short segments designed to help find your real value in the marketplace. By truly differentiating your company's product and service offerings, you are able to gain more prospects, convert more prospects to customers, sell more services to those customers, and sell them for more money.

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      <title>Innovating by examining other industries</title>
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      <title>Putting People First</title>
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        <![CDATA[Jim Sinegal, CEO of the nation's 4th largest retailer, defies conventional wisdom by putting his people first - before Wall Street. "Wall Street is in the business of making money between now and next Tuesday," he said. "We're in the business of building an organization, an institution that we hope will be here 50 years from now. And paying good wages and keeping your people working with you is very good business."]]>
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      <title>True Differentiation</title>
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        <![CDATA[Price, quality and service are not differentiators. Thanks to rising customer expectations, they're merely a prerequisite to play in the game today.]]>
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